Asking Tech Billionaires How They Got Rich!

章节 1：科技大会街访：Replit创始人与Twitch联合创始人

📝 本节摘要：

主持人在科技大会街头采访科技富豪。38岁的Replit创始人Amjad Masad出身约旦难民家庭，靠编程起家，曾拒绝10亿美元收购。他认为致富靠行动而非聪明，AI是史上最大的财富引擎，建议敢想大、长期耐心、短期快速推进，并把AI用到熟悉的行业。主持人总结：AI整体可颠覆任何行业。随后他偶遇创业22年的Twitch联合创始人Justin Kan，对方2014年以9.7亿美元出售了Twitch。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Today I'm going to be interviewing some of the richest tech billionaires in America. I'm at one of the largest tech conferences in the world, and inside are AI founders, billionaire investors, and some of the most powerful people in Silicon Valley. These are the people building the future and getting rich doing it. So today, I'm going to cold approach them to find out what it actually takes to get rich. And later in this video, we're going to be heading to the house of a billionaire who sold a software company for $5 billion and bought an NBA team. So this video is about to be insane from start to finish.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 今天我要采访几位全美最富有的科技亿万富翁。我现在在全球最大的科技大会之一，里面有 AI 创业者、亿万富翁投资人，还有硅谷一些最有权势的人物。他们正在打造未来，也因此赚得盆满钵满。所以今天，我要直接上前搭讪，看看致富到底需要什么。在视频后半段，我们还会去一位亿万富翁的家里——他以 50 亿美元卖掉了一家软件公司，还买下了一支 NBA 球队。所以这期视频从头到尾都会非常精彩。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: With that being said, let's get this video on the way. Excuse me, sir. Sir, question for you, man. How old were you when you became a billionaire?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 话不多说，我们开始吧。打扰一下，先生。先生，问你个问题。你成为亿万富翁的时候多大？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: This year.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 就是今年。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: This year?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 今年？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I was 38 years old.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我 38 岁。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Congratulations. Where are you from, man?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 恭喜！你是哪里人？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I'm from Jordan originally.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我老家是约旦的。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: And how did you become a billionaire, man? What type of company was it?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 那你是怎么成为亿万富翁的？是做什么公司的？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: You know, people here get rich by writing code. I got rich by making code optional.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 你知道，这里的人靠写代码致富，而我是靠让写代码变成可选项致富的。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Wow.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 哇。

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: So, if you have an idea, you go to Replit. You can build an app by just putting in a prompt.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 所以，如果你有个想法，就去 Replit，只要输入一段提示词，就能做出一个应用。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: You became an AI billionaire.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你成了一位 AI 亿万富翁。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Congratulations, man. Seriously, how can somebody use AI to become wealthy in today's world? Everybody talks about AI this, artificial intelligence that. How can somebody actually leverage AI to become wealthy in today's world?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 真心恭喜你。说真的，在当今世界，普通人怎么利用 AI 致富？大家张口闭口都是 AI、人工智能，那一个人到底该怎么借助 AI 在今天变得富有？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: Yeah. The difference between people who get rich and people who don't, it's not about smartness. It's people who ship, people who do things. The internet and AI is the biggest wealth creation engine. There's going to be more millionaires and billionaires created in the next 5 years than ever in the history of humanity. And the difference is getting started, putting something out there. Yeah.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 是的。能致富的人和不能致富的人，区别不在于聪不聪明，而在于是否把东西做出来、是否真正去行动。互联网和 AI 是最大的财富创造引擎。未来 5 年诞生的百万富翁和亿万富翁，将比人类历史上任何时期都多。而区别就在于你是否开始行动，是否把东西推出去。没错。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: So do you think that what holds people back is they just don't even get started? They procrastinate.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 所以你觉得，阻碍人们的是他们根本没开始？他们一直在拖延。

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: They think, "Oh, it requires some technical knowledge. It requires some schooling or whatever." No. Just go to a site like Replit, put in your idea, see what comes out, iterate from there, and then go sell. Go market. Go put your ideas out there.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 他们会想：「哦，这需要技术知识，需要上学之类的。」不是的。就去 Replit 这样的网站，输入你的想法，看看能做出什么，在此基础上迭代，然后去卖、去推广，把你的想法推出去。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: One of my favorite things is sell it first and then figure it out. You need customers, you need revenue.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 我最喜欢的一句话就是：先卖出去，再想办法搞定。你需要客户，需要收入。

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: Right. Exactly.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 对，完全正确。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Growing up, did you come from a lot of money?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你小时候家里有钱吗？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I did not. My father's a refugee, actually. And the cool thing about it is he bought us a computer when very young. And I learned how to code and I started building businesses. The difference is I had good ideas. It wasn't just that I learned to code. So it became my life mission: how to make it so that anyone with a good idea can become wealthy.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 没有。其实我父亲是难民。但很棒的是，他在我们很小的时候就给我们买了一台电脑。我学会了编程，开始创业。不同之处在于我有好点子，而不只是学会了写代码。所以这成了我的人生使命：让任何有好点子的人都能致富。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: And did you have any idea growing up that you were going to become a billionaire? Is that ever a goal?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你小时候有没有想过自己会成为亿万富翁？那曾经是你的目标吗？

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: You did. Why? What was your self-talk when you were a young kid in Jordan, man?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你想过。为什么？你小时候在约旦的时候，是怎么给自己打气的？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I always felt like you should think big. I always believed in visualization. Have incredible patience. Our business took 8 years to take off. Most people quit in a year. We got offered to get acquired for a billion dollars in 2019. I said no because I want to build a trillion-dollar company. Right? So always thinking big, and paradoxically have incredible patience to be able to do it in 10, 20 years, but move incredibly fast in the short term.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我一直觉得人应该敢想大。我一直相信「可视化」的力量。要有极大的耐心。我们的公司花了 8 年才起飞，而大多数人一年就放弃了。2019 年有人出价 10 亿美元收购我们，我拒绝了，因为我想打造一家万亿美元的公司。对吧？所以要始终敢想大，同时看似矛盾地，要有极大的耐心，用 10 年、20 年去实现，但在短期内又要行动极快。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: But how did you prioritize long-term thinking over short-term profits? You said no to a billion dollars, man. That's remarkable. People never do that. How did you prioritize the long-term thinking when you had the opportunity to build, you know, forever wealth?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 但你是怎么做到把长期思维放在短期利润之前的？你拒绝了 10 亿美元啊，这太了不起了，一般人根本做不到。在有机会获得一辈子财富的时候，你是怎么坚持长期思维的？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I think it's mindset. It's like, is Zuckerberg that much better than me? Is Elon that much better than me? Why are they better than me? They're not. And if you just have that self-belief, that self-talk, I think you're going to be able to achieve amazing things.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我觉得是心态。就好比：扎克伯格真的比我强那么多吗？埃隆真的比我强那么多吗？他们凭什么比我强？并没有。只要你有这种自信，有这样的自我对话，我觉得你就能成就非凡。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: In the next 1 to 2 years, what is the best industry people should be looking to get into right now?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 未来一两年，人们现在最应该进入哪个行业？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I think AI is...

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我觉得是 AI……

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Be specific. What part of AI in the next years?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 具体点。未来几年 AI 的哪个领域？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I think it's important not to be specific, because you can apply AI to any industry. So, if you're a doctor, look around you. Why is AI not being applied to healthcare? If you are a driver, why isn't AI being applied to trucking? Literally pick any industry, any vertical that you have experience in, and go figure how to apply AI into it.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我觉得重要的恰恰是不要局限，因为 AI 可以应用到任何行业。如果你是医生，看看周围，为什么医疗领域还没用上 AI？如果你是司机，为什么卡车运输还没用上 AI？随便挑一个你有经验的行业、任何细分领域，去想办法把 AI 用进去。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: So you don't like the idea of going after a small niche. You like a big market is what you're saying.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 所以你不太赞成去做小众细分市场，你的意思是更看好大市场。

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: Well, it can be a small niche, but figuring out how AI can transform your industry. Anyone has experience in life that is differentiated, right? I can be a nurse. I can be someone who's into sports. Whatever it is, something you're obsessed about, now find the intersection with AI. Figure out how to transform that industry and you're going to make a billion dollars.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 嗯，也可以是小众市场，关键是弄清楚 AI 如何改变你所在的行业。每个人都有与众不同的人生经历，对吧？你可能是护士，也可能是个体育迷。不管是什么，只要是你着迷的东西，就去找它和 AI 的交汇点。想清楚怎么用 AI 改造那个行业，你就能赚到 10 亿美元。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: 38 years old today. If me and you died tomorrow and you had one more message to leave with the younger generation, what would that be? Give me these next 30 seconds. How can somebody become a billionaire in today's world?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你今年 38 岁。假如我们明天就死了，你还能给年轻一代留下最后一句话，会是什么？给我接下来的 30 秒：在当今世界，一个人怎样才能成为亿万富翁？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: Don't sit on your ideas. Go build them. Don't just wait and overthink. Go do things. I mean, today's world with AI, it benefits the doers more than the thinkers.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 别把想法搁着，去把它做出来。别光等着、想太多，去行动。我是说，在有 AI 的今天，这个世界更青睐实干者，而不是空想者。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: You have incredible advice, my friend. Thank you so much for your time, and appreciate it. Now that's the 53rd billionaire I've interviewed.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你的建议太棒了，朋友。非常感谢你抽出时间。你是我采访的第 53 位亿万富翁了。

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I love your channel. It's very inspiring.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我很喜欢你的频道，非常鼓舞人心。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Did you like the questions?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 你喜欢这些问题吗？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I love the questions.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我很喜欢这些问题。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Can I get your contact? Is that cool?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 能留个联系方式吗？可以吗？

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: Sure.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 当然。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Is that cool? What's your name, for the people that...

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 可以吗？你叫什么名字，好让观众……

[原文] [Amjad Masad]: I'm Jud. I'm Judas.

[译文] [Amjad Masad]: 我是 Amjad，我叫 Amjad Masad。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: So guys, I cold approached the AI billionaire. It was coming out right after speaking, and he knew the channel, man. He's seen the billionaire interviews. Well, now he just became one of them, because that's officially the 53rd billionaire that I've interviewed on the School of Hard Knocks. But look, my biggest takeaway in that interview was when I asked him what is the specific part of AI people need to be leveraging in today's world. He said don't think about specific; AI as a whole can disrupt any industry you think about. Take notes from that interview right there. But we got to keep this one rolling and go find, cold approach our next billionaire out here. You guys, come on. Excuse me, sir. Sir, sir, question for you real quick. Fall back real quick, sir. Real quick. How did you get rich? I have a channel with 22 million

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 好了各位，我刚刚在街头直接搭讪了那位 AI 亿万富翁。他刚演讲完出来，而且他知道我们这个频道，伙计。他看过我们的亿万富翁采访。现在好了，他自己也成了其中一员，因为他正式成为我在 School of Hard Knocks 上采访的第 53 位亿万富翁。不过说真的，那次采访我最大的收获是：我问他，在当今世界，人们需要利用 AI 的哪个具体方面？他说别去想具体的，AI 作为一个整体，能颠覆你能想到的任何行业。那段采访大家好好记下来。不过我们得继续往下拍，去这儿搭讪下一位亿万富翁。大家快来。打扰一下，先生。先生，先生，快问您个问题。先生，稍微往后退一点。就一下。您是怎么发家致富的？我有一个频道，有 2200 万

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: followers. I interview billionaires on how they made it. Oh, how did you get rich?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 粉丝。我专门采访亿万富翁，问他们是怎么成功的。那么，您是怎么发家的？

[原文] [Justin Kan]: Oh, have you heard of Twitch?

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 哦，你听说过 Twitch 吗？

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Twitch.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: Twitch。

[原文] [Justin Kan]: I'm a co-founder of Twitch.

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 我是 Twitch 的联合创始人。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: No, you're not. Are you serious?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 不会吧。你是认真的吗？

[原文] [Justin Kan]: Yeah. Yeah.

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 是的，是的。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Are you actually?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 真的假的？

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: God smiled on me.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 老天真眷顾我。

[原文] [Justin Kan]: Yeah.

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 是啊。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: So, how long were you running Twitch for? And how long have you been a business owner?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 那你经营 Twitch 多久了？你当老板又有多少年了？

[原文] [Justin Kan]: I started my first company when I was 20 years old. So, that was 22 years ago. I guess I'm old now.

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 我 20 岁时创办了第一家公司，所以那是 22 年前的事了。看来我现在老了。

[原文] [Justin Kan]: 40... 42 years old today.

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 40……今年 42 岁了。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Yeah.

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 嗯。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Yeah. Over these 42 years, what was the most amount of money you made in a single year?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 好。在这 42 年里，你一年之内赚得最多的是多少钱？

[原文] [Justin Kan]: We sold Twitch in 2014 for $970 million.

[译文] [Justin Kan]: 我们在 2014 年以 9.7 亿美元卖掉了 Twitch。

[原文] [Isaiah Garza]: Almost a billion dollars. Can I leave you for a minute real quick?

[译文] [Isaiah Garza]: 差不多十亿美元啊。我能先离开一下吗，就一会儿？