IMPERIA: AMD Chair + CEO Dr. Lisa Su on the Future of AI and Leadership

章节 1：从工程师到人工智能产业领袖

📝 本节摘要：

Lisa Su 回顾了从台湾移居纽约、在多元环境中成长并培养数学与科学兴趣的经历，讲述自己拆解遥控车、热爱创造实体产品的童年故事。她也分享了工程师式的领导理念，以及半导体和芯片如今对经济、国家安全与人工智能发展的重要意义。

[原文] [Liz Claman]: So, back to that pinch-me moment. Lisa, you have to tell us if you were ever at any point leading this company and you thought about that possibility. Something tells me you were just going straight ahead. But at any point, did that kind of enter, especially when Nvidia, another chip company, was the first to become five trillion dollars?

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 回到那个让人感觉像在做梦的时刻。Lisa，你在带领这家公司发展的某个阶段，有没有想过这种可能性？我感觉你一直只是勇往直前。但你有没有在某个时刻想到过，尤其是在另一家芯片公司英伟达率先达到五万亿美元市值之后？

[原文] [Lisa Su]: Well, first I have to say a big thank you to Madame First Lady for bringing us together in Imperia. I think it's an incredible initiative to have, and I have to tell you my personal story with Madam First Lady. She has led many, many initiatives, but one in particular that I had an opportunity to be a part of was her AI education initiative. And with all the conversation about AI right now, I have to say it was incredibly impactful, you know, to just have her on the stage. So I want to say again, thank you for having all of us here.

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 首先，我要特别感谢第一夫人，感谢她在 Imperia 把我们聚集在一起。我认为这是一个非常了不起的倡议。我也想分享一下我和第一夫人的个人经历。她推动过许多倡议，其中有一项我有机会参与，那就是她发起的人工智能教育倡议。在如今大家都热议人工智能的时候，我必须说，仅仅是看到她站在台上，就已经让人深受触动。所以我再次感谢她邀请我们来到这里。

[原文] [Lisa Su]: Now, to your question, Liz, she's a unicorn. First female-led company.

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 至于你的问题，Liz，她是一家独角兽企业，也是第一家由女性领导的公司。

[原文] [Lisa Su]: I would say thank you very much for the comments. It's really quite special. But look, I'm an engineer. I started out as an engineer. I went to school for engineering, and my whole thing in life was, you know, can I build something that matters? Can I build products that matter? Can I build a company that matters? And that's really what has been driving me. When I think about, like, when I wake up in the morning, what I get really excited about is, you know, the technology that we're building is making an impact on people's lives. And you know, when you think about the things that you can do in life, that's a pretty exciting thing for me, to be able to do. So, the fact that semiconductors and chips are now, like, so front and

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 我想说，非常感谢你的评价。这确实很特别。但你看，我是一名工程师，我最初就是做工程师的。我学的也是工程，而我一生一直在想的是：我能不能做出真正重要的东西？能不能打造有价值的产品？能不能建立一家有意义的公司？这一直是驱动我的力量。每天早上醒来时，最让我兴奋的就是，我们正在研发的技术正在影响人们的生活。想想人生中能够做这样的事情，对我来说就非常令人激动。所以，如今半导体和芯片变得如此……

[原文] [Lisa Su]: center, like when I started 30 years ago, Liz, nobody talked about chips. Like, people were like, chips? What are chips? Semiconductor chips. And now I think when you think about everything that powers our lives, whether it's the economy or national security, semiconductors are a big piece of that. And so I'm really super lucky to be part of this industry.

[译文] [Lisa Su]: ……处于聚光灯下。三十年前我刚入行时，Liz，根本没人谈芯片。人们会问：芯片？芯片是什么？半导体芯片。而现在，想想我们生活中的一切，无论是经济还是国家安全，半导体都是其中非常重要的一部分。所以，我真的非常幸运，能够成为这个行业的一员。

[原文] [Liz Claman]: Well, how many of us in this audience, starting a couple of years ago, had to look up GPU, graphics processing units, and CPU? It's a huge difference. AMD does both of them. A lot of other companies just do one or the other, and I think that is what your helming of this company has made it so valuable. That said, before we even talk about your journey as a female business leader, give us a sense

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 现场有多少人，是从几年前开始才不得不去查 GPU，也就是图形处理器，以及 CPU 的含义？这两者差别很大。AMD 两种都做，而很多其他公司只做其中一种。我认为，正是你对这家公司的掌舵，让它变得如此有价值。话说回来，在我们谈你作为女性商业领袖的经历之前，先请你介绍一下

[原文] [Liz Claman]: of your childhood, because you came to this country from Taiwan at age—well, I asked her, I said it was two, right? Age two. She said two, three, I don't remember. But your parents came.

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 你的童年经历。你两岁时从台湾来到这个国家——我还问过她，我说是两岁，对吧？两岁。她说，两岁、三岁，我记不清了。但当时是你的父母带你来的。

[原文] [Liz Claman]: Yes. And you ended up in Queens, New York.

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 对。后来你们定居在纽约皇后区。

[原文] [Lisa Su]: Well, yeah. Look, my father came here to the United States, to Columbia, for graduate school. He brought the family and, you know, it's like the typical American dream, in the sense that he wanted a better life for his family and our family. And so, yeah, I grew up in New York. I would say, as typical Asian parents are, school is very, very important. And so I became very much a math and science person. But

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 是的。你看，我父亲当时来到美国哥伦比亚大学读研究生，也把全家带了过来。这其实就是典型的美国梦：他希望自己的家庭、也就是我们的家庭，能够过上更好的生活。所以，我是在纽约长大的。和许多典型的亚洲家长一样，我的父母非常重视教育。因此，我逐渐成了一个偏爱数学和科学的人。不过……

[原文] [Liz Claman]: Were you expected to get all A's?

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 他们是不是希望你门门都拿 A？

[原文] [Lisa Su]: I was, but I didn't. Liz, I was like, I was like a B+.

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 是的，但我没有做到。Liz，我大概就是……B+ 的水平。

[原文] [Liz Claman]: I remember watching an episode of Glee where somebody, an Asian student, said, "I got a B." And they said, "B? That's an Asian F. It's an Asian F."

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 我记得看过《欢乐合唱团》的一集，有个亚裔学生说：“我拿了个 B。”然后别人说：“B？那是亚裔的 F，是亚裔的 F。”

[原文] [Lisa Su]: The truth is, I have to say, growing up in New York, for all of us New Yorkers, it was just a tremendous experience, getting to know lots of different people. And from that standpoint, yeah, it taught you something about ambition, to be ambitious.

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 说实话，我必须说，在纽约长大，对我们这些纽约人来说，是一段非常宝贵的经历，因为你会认识各种各样的人。从这个角度来说，它也教会了你理解什么是抱负，以及要有进取心。

[原文] [Liz Claman]: So, at the youngest age that you can remember, when did you realize that you had a penchant for science, for understanding how things mechanically worked?

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 那么，在你记忆中最早的年龄，你是什么时候意识到自己喜欢科学、喜欢弄明白东西在机械层面是如何运作的？

[原文] [Lisa Su]: Well, I have to say that I was pretty curious as a kid, and perhaps the one thing that I remember is, my brother had this remote-controlled car that would be going up and down our hallways. And one day it stopped working. And I was like, why did it stop

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 我必须说，我小时候非常好奇。也许我记得最清楚的一件事是，我哥哥有一辆遥控车，经常在我们家的走廊里来回跑。有一天它突然不动了。我当时就想，它为什么停止

[原文] [Lisa Su]: working? It was really unusual. And I actually took it apart and realized that there was a wire that was loose and connected it, and it started working again. And I was like, wow, this is really interesting. And I think, look, my love is doing things that you can touch and feel. Like, the idea that you can build something and you can walk down to the Best Buy and it's sitting there, and you can say, "Hey, I contributed to that product." Those are the things that I enjoy.

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 运转了？这太不寻常了。我真的把它拆开，发现有一根电线松了，就把它接好，结果它又开始工作了。我当时就想，哇，这太有意思了。我想，我喜欢的就是做那些你能触摸、能感受到的东西。你可以亲手造出某样东西，然后走进 Best Buy，看到它就在那里，并且可以说：“嘿，我参与了这件产品的研发。”这就是我喜欢做的事情。

[原文] [Liz Claman]: Well, you know, in the 70s, growing up, were you cognizant of the fact that when you decided to go into science, that you were probably a unicorn in the forest? Very, very rare to see a lot of young girls interested in science and engineering, pulling things apart and putting them back together again.

[译文] [Liz Claman]: 你知道，在 20 世纪 70 年代长大时，当你决定投身科学领域，你是否意识到自己可能是森林里的一只独角兽？当时，对科学和工程感兴趣、喜欢把东西拆开再装回去的女孩非常非常少见。

[原文] [Lisa Su]: Well, it turns out that I went to the Bronx High School of Science here in the city, and

[译文] [Lisa Su]: 事实是，我就读于纽约市的布朗克斯科学高中，而……