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章节 1：Sora 演示、智能图谱与“工具论”视角

📝 本节摘要：

主持人 Chris Anderson 欢迎 Sam Altman 登台，并通过展示 OpenAI 最新视频生成模型 Sora 的作品以及一张区分“智能”与“意识”的图表，引出了对 GPT-4o 综合能力的讨论。针对技术进步可能引发的职业焦虑（以管理咨询为例），Sam 提出了乐观的“工具论”视角：如同历史上的技术革命，AI 将大幅提升人类的能力上限，而非单纯的替代。本章以一个关于 Charlie Brown 自我认知的“元回答”结尾，探讨了内容生成的深度与训练数据的关系。

[原文] Chris Anderson: Sam, welcome to TED. Thank you so much for coming.

[译文] Chris Anderson: Sam，欢迎来到 TED。非常感谢你的到来。

[原文] Sam Altman: Thank you. It's an honor.

[译文] Sam Altman: 谢谢。这是我的荣幸。

[原文] CA: Your company has been releasing crazy insane new models pretty much every other week it feels like.

[译文] CA: 你们公司最近感觉几乎每隔一周就在发布疯狂、不可思议的新模型。

[原文] I've been playing with a couple of them. I'd like to show you what I've been playing.

[译文] 我一直在试用其中的几个。我想向你展示一下我试用的成果。

[原文] So, Sora, this is the image and video generator. I asked Sora this: What will it look like when you share some shocking revelations here at TED?

[译文] 首先是 Sora，这是图像和视频生成器。我问了 Sora 这个问题：当你在 TED 这里分享一些令人震惊的内幕时，画面会是什么样的？

[原文] You want to see how it imagined it, you know? (Laughter) I mean, not bad, right?

[译文] 你想看看它是怎么想象那个场景的吗，你知道吧？（笑声）我是说，还不错，对吧？

[原文] How would you grade that? Five fingers on all hands.

[译文] 你会给它打几分？所有的手上都有五根手指。

[原文] SA: Very close to what I'm wearing, you know, it's good.

[译文] SA: 和我穿的衣服非常接近，你知道，这很不错。

[原文] CA: I've never seen you quite that animated.

[译文] CA: 我从来没见过你那么生动活泼。

[原文] SA: No, I'm not that animated of a person.

[译文] SA: 不，我不是那种动作幅度很大的人。

[原文] CA: So maybe a B-plus. But this one genuinely astounded me.

[译文] CA: 所以也许给个 B+ 吧。但是这一个（演示）真的让我震惊了。

[原文] When I asked it to come up with a diagram that shows the difference between intelligence and consciousness. Like how would you do that?

[译文] 当我要求它生成一张图表，展示“智能”和“意识”之间的区别时。试想如果是你，你会怎么做？

[原文] This is what it did. I mean, this is so simple, but it's incredible.

[译文] 这就是它做出来的结果。我的意思是，这太简洁了，但简直不可思议。

[原文] What is the kind of process that would allow -- like this is clearly not just image generation.

[译文] 是什么样的过程让它能够——我是说这显然不仅仅是图像生成。

[原文] It's linking into the core intelligences that your overall model has.

[译文] 它是连接到了你们整体模型中所具备的核心智能。

[原文] SA: Yeah, the new image generation model is part of GPT-4o, so it's got all of the intelligence in there.

[译文] SA: 是的，新的图像生成模型是 GPT-4o 的一部分，所以它包含了那里面所有的智能。

[原文] And I think that's one of the reasons it's been able to do these things that people really love.

[译文] 我认为这也是它能够做到这些人们真正喜欢的事情的原因之一。

[原文] CA: I mean, if I'm a management consultant and I'm playing with some of this stuff, I'm thinking, uh oh, what does my future look like?

[译文] CA: 我的意思是，假如我是一名管理顾问，我在玩这些东西的时候，我会想，“噢不，我的未来会变成什么样？”

[原文] SA: I mean, I think there are sort of two views you can take. You can say, oh, man, it's doing everything I do.

[译文] SA: 我觉得，你可以持有两种观点。你可以说，“天哪，它在做我做的所有事情。”

[原文] What's going to happen to me? Or you can say, like through every other technological revolution in history, OK, now there's this new tool.

[译文] “我会发生什么事？”或者你可以说，就像历史上的每一次技术革命一样，“好吧，现在有了这个新工具。”

[原文] I can do a lot more. What am I going to be able to do?

[译文] “我可以做更多的事情了。我将来能做到什么？”

[原文] It is true that the expectation of what we’ll have for someone in a particular job increases, but the capabilities will increase so dramatically that I think it will be easy to rise to that occasion.

[译文] 确实，我们对某个特定职位的人的期望值会提高，但能力的提升将是如此巨大，以至于我认为人们很容易应对这一挑战。

[原文] CA: So this impressed me too. I asked it to imagine Charlie Brown as thinking of himself as an AI. It came up with this.

[译文] CA: 这一点也让我印象深刻。我让它想象查理·布朗（Charlie Brown）把自己当成一个人工智能。它给出了这个结果。

[原文] I thought this was actually rather profound. What do you think? (Laughs)

[译文] 我觉得这实际上相当深刻。你怎么看？（笑）

[原文] I mean, the writing quality of some of the new models, not just here, but in detail, is really going to a new level.

[译文] 我的意思是，一些新模型的写作质量，不仅仅是在这里，而是在细节上，真的达到了一个新的水平。

[原文] SA: I mean, this is an incredible meta answer, but there's really no way to know if it is thinking that or it just saw that a lot of times in the training set.

[译文] SA: 我是说，这是一个令人难以置信的“元”回答（meta answer），但真的没办法知道它是在思考那个问题，还是它只是在训练集中看过很多次类似的内容。

[原文] And of course like if you can’t tell the difference, how much do you care?

[译文] 当然，如果你分辨不出区别，你又会有多在乎呢？