OpenClaw Creator: Why 80% Of Apps Will Disappear

OpenClaw Creator: Why 80% Of Apps Will Disappear

OpenClaw 创始人:为什么 80% 的 App 将会消失

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【激进预言】OpenClaw 创始人:未来 80% 的垂直 App 将被 Agent 吞噬 为什么我们还需要安装几十个 App?Peter Steinberger 认为,随着 AI Agent 能够直接操作底层系统和 API,大多数工具类 App 将失去存在的意义,退化为 Agent 调用的一种“技能”。他通过 OpenClaw 的实战揭示了一个“无 App 化”的系统交互未来。 🎙️ 访谈人物介绍 Peter Steinberger:OpenClaw/ClawdBot 创始人,前 PSPDFKit CEO。 核心议题:Agent 驱动的 UI 革命、垂直应用的生存危机、OS 与 AI 的深度融合、OpenClaw 的战略定位。 关键词:OpenClaw、AI Agent、App 消失、技术趋势

章节 1:OpenClaw的崛起:本地化AI的无限潜能

📝 本节摘要:

本节作为访谈的开篇,记录了 OpenClaw(开源个人AI代理)在 GitHub 上一夜爆红的现象级时刻(突破16万星)。创作者 Peter Steinberger 分享了他在面对巨大流量时的真实反应——“想躲进洞穴”。对话的核心揭示了 OpenClaw 成功的关键差异点:本地运行(Local Execution)。与云端 AI 不同,本地 AI 拥有对计算机的完全控制权,能像人类一样操作所有硬件与服务(从特斯拉、智能灯泡到调节床的温度),甚至能挖掘出用户早已遗忘的本地数据(如旧音频文件),从而创造出云端模型无法实现的惊喜体验。

[原文] [Interviewer]: today I'm sitting down with Peter Steinberger the creator of OpenClaw the open- source personal AI agent that has completely taken over the internet the GitHub repo exploded to over 160,000 stars practically overnight the community has built countless projects like Maltbook where bots talk among themselves and now the bots are even renting humans to do tasks in the real world in our conversation we discuss his aha moment his contrarian development philosophies and what this means for builders in 2026 let's dive in so good to see you man hey what's up

[译文] [Interviewer]: 今天我和 Peter Steinberger 坐在一起,他是 OpenClaw 的创造者,这是一个彻底席卷了互联网的开源个人 AI 代理。GitHub 仓库几乎在一夜之间激增至超过 160,000 颗星,社区构建了无数项目,比如 Maltbook,在那里面机器人之间可以相互交谈,甚至现在机器人还在雇佣人类在现实世界中执行任务。在我们的对话中,我们讨论了他的“顿悟时刻”、他反传统的开发哲学,以及这对 2026 年的构建者意味着什么。让我们开始吧。很高兴见到你,伙计,最近怎么样?

[原文] [Peter]: um so you've made something people want it seems so yeah uh Open Claw as it's called now has absolutely name number five yeah has been absolutely exploding the internet um how have the past one or two weeks been for you man oh my god i need like I need a cave a week of solitude you You came out of the cave and you want to go back to the cave like a like little lobster it's been absolutely wild i don't know how one human can absorb all of t

[译文] [Peter]: 嗯,看来你做出了人们想要的东西。是的,Open Claw——这是现在的名字,绝对是第五个名字了——绝对引爆了互联网。过去的一两周对你来说怎么样?天哪,我需要……我需要一个洞穴,一周的独处。你刚从洞穴里出来,又想回到洞穴里去,就像只小龙虾一样。这绝对是疯狂的,我不知道一个人怎么能吸收所有的……

[原文] [Peter]: hat i probably need another week just to like respond to all my emails uh I got some incredibly cool stuff i got some incredibly bad stuff um but clearly I hit something that sprew up emotions and made people interested and inspired people and it's really cool and a lot of people have been working on you know AI and even personal assistance like what what is it that made Open Claw take off

[译文] [Peter]: 我可能还需要一周的时间来回复所有的邮件。我收到了一些非常酷的东西,也收到了一些非常糟糕的东西。但很明显,我触动了某种能激起情绪、让人感兴趣并受到启发的东西,这真的很酷。很多人一直在研究 AI,甚至是个人助理,比如是什么让 Open Claw 起飞的?

[原文] [Peter]: i think my big difference is that it actually runs on your computer like every everything I saw so far runs in the cloud it's like it can do a few things if you run on your computer it can do every effing thing right so that's way more powerful yeah machine can do anything that you can do with the machine you can just connect to your oven or your Tesla or your lights your Sonos my bad it can control the temperature of my bed jpd can't do that you gave it all the skills that you have yourself

[译文] [Peter]: 我认为我最大的区别在于它实际上是在你的电脑上运行的。就像我目前看到的所有东西都是在云端运行的,这就像是它只能做几件事。如果你在你的电脑上运行,它能做每一件该死的事情(every effing thing),对吧?所以这要强大得多。是的,机器可以做任何你可以用机器做的事情。你可以直接连接到你的烤箱、你的特斯拉、你的灯光、你的 Sonos 音响……我的错,它甚至可以控制我床的温度。ChatGPT 做不到这一点。你把你拥有的所有技能都赋予了它。

[原文] [Peter]: a friend told me like he installed Open Claw and it and then it asked it like look through my computer and make a narrative over my last year and it made this incredibly good narrative and he was like how did you do that and then he the open cloth found audio files where like every Sunday he was recording stuff and openclaw found that but he didn't even remember about it because it was like more than a year ago right so So just by it being able to search a whole computer it it can surprise you it's also you also give it all the data right so it can surprise you in many ways

[译文] [Peter]: 一个朋友告诉我,他安装了 Open Claw,然后让它“检查我的电脑,并生成我过去一年的叙事”。结果它做出了一个非常棒的叙事,他当时就问“你是怎么做到的?”。然后 Open Claw 发现了一些音频文件,是他以前每个周日录制东西留下的,Open Claw 发现了这些,但他甚至都不记得了,因为那是一年多以前的事了,对吧?所以仅仅因为它能够搜索整个电脑,它就能给你惊喜。而且你也给了它所有的数据,对吧,所以它能在很多方面给你惊喜。


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  1. 章节 2:群体智能:从单体AI到Bot协作网络
  2. 章节 3:尤里卡时刻:从CLI工具到“马拉喀什奇迹”
  3. 章节 4:应用的终结:为什么80%的App会消失
  4. 章节 5:护城河之争:模型商品化与用户记忆主权
  5. 章节 6:Soul.md:赋予AI人格与安全边界
  6. 章节 7:反传统的开发哲学:摒弃复杂性

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