I got a private lesson on Claude Cowork & Claude Code

章节 1：开场与产品背景 (Introduction & Product Context)

📝 本节摘要：

本节作为访谈的开篇，主持人 Greg 介绍了 Claude Co-work 的核心定位——它是一个将技术性极强的 Claude Code 封装进简洁 UI 的产品，旨在让包括非技术人员在内的所有人（甚至父母）都能使用。Claude Code/Co-work 的创造者 Boris 指出，最初 Claude Code 并非作为产品构建，但用户的使用方式（甚至“滥用”）给团队带来了巨大惊喜。双方用早期 App Store 的发展历程类比，认为目前正处于探索 Co-work 潜力的早期阶段，没有人拥有全部答案。

[原文] [Greg]: claude Cowwork is here and if you understand how to use it you're going to be able to outperform 99% of people on this planet it is an easy way for you to use Claude Code you might have heard of Claude Code it's gone viral but the problem is it feels technical you have to go into the terminal and it's not fun for a lot of beginners

[译文] [Greg]: Claude Co-work 来了，如果你懂得如何使用它，你将能够超越这个星球上 99% 的人。这是一种使用 Claude Code 的简便方法，你可能听说过 Claude Code，它已经疯传了，但问题是它让人感觉技术性太强，你必须进入终端（terminal），这对许多初学者来说并不好玩。

[原文] [Greg]: so Claude has come up with co-work and it's a brand new product that harnesses the power of Claude code in a UI that is simple that anyone could use that your dad can use your mom could use hey even you can use

[译文] [Greg]: 所以 Claude 推出了 Co-work，这是一个全新的产品，它利用了 Claude Code 的强大功能，但采用了一个简单的用户界面（UI），任何人都可以使用，你爸爸可以用，你妈妈可以用，嘿，甚至你也可以用。

[原文] [Greg]: so in this episode I brought on Boris the maker of this product i'm so excited that he shows you the best practices for how to use Claude Co-work and at the end how he sets up his Claude code to get the most out of it you're going to love this episode

[译文] [Greg]: 所以在这一集中，我请来了这个产品的制造者 Boris，我非常兴奋他能向大家展示使用 Claude Co-work 的最佳实践，以及在最后展示他如何设置自己的 Claude Code 以充分利用它，你会喜欢这一集的。

[原文] [Greg]: we are lucky we've got Boris he's the creator of Claude code and I would say the co-creator of Claude co-work today and today what I want to get accomplished is everyone's talking about co-work and I want to best understand what are the use cases how can we get started what are some nonobvious ways I can use it,

[译文] [Greg]: 我们很幸运请到了 Boris，他是 Claude Code 的创造者，我想说也是如今 Claude Co-work 的联合创造者。今天我想达成的是，大家都在谈论 Co-work，我想最好地了解它的用例是什么，我们如何开始，以及有哪些不明显的（nonobvious）使用方法。

[原文] [Greg]: so Boris thank you so much for coming on the show and I have one question for you by the end of this episode what are people going to get out of it

[译文] [Greg]: 所以 Boris，非常感谢你来到节目中，我有一个问题问你，到这一集结束时，人们会从中得到什么？

[原文] [Boris]: oo I think people are going to start to get some more ideas for how to use co-work and hopefully they're going to tweet about it and maybe they'll even reach out to me so I can learn how they want to use co-work

[译文] [Boris]: 噢，我认为人们将开始获得更多关于如何使用 Co-work 的想法，希望他们会在推特上讨论它，甚至可能会联系我，这样我就能了解他们想如何使用 Co-work。

[原文] [Boris]: it's funny I feel like um quad code from the beginning it was sort of built to be it wasn't actually built to be a product at all but when we first started thinking about it as a product we thought that the thing people would use it for is coding but we learned very quickly that people didn't just use it for coding they used it for like all sorts of stuff

[译文] [Boris]: 这很有趣，我觉得 Claude Code 从一开始某种程度上……它实际上根本不是为了成为一个产品而构建的，但当我们第一次开始将其视为一个产品时，我们认为人们会用它来写代码，但我们很快了解到人们不仅仅用它来写代码，他们用它来做各种各样的事情。

[原文] [Boris]: so I I kind of feel the journey of quad code has been very surprising and I have been learning so much just watching how people use the product and how they abuse it and kind of like what what they actually want to use it for and even if it's not designed for that,

[译文] [Boris]: 所以我感觉 Claude Code 的旅程非常令人惊讶，我仅仅通过观察人们如何使用这个产品、如何“滥用”它、以及他们实际上想用它做什么（即使它不是为此设计的），就学到了很多东西。

[原文] [Boris]: so I kind of feel the same way about Coorwork you know I have some ideas about what people are going to use it for i kind of view these as hypothesis and so you know happy to talk about it happy to maybe I'll do a quick demo to to show you kind of some of the some of the things that we use it for but I think that it's going to be pretty surprising uh and I hope that I will be surprised um when we see how people actually use it in the wild

[译文] [Boris]: 所以我对 Co-work 也有同样的感觉，你知道我对人们会用它做什么有一些想法，我把这些看作是假设。所以我很高兴谈论它，也很高兴也许做一个快速演示来向你展示我们用它做的一些事情，但我认为这将会非常令人惊讶，而且我希望当我们在现实世界（in the wild）中看到人们实际如何使用它时，我会感到惊讶。

[原文] [Greg]: yeah I think uh that's always the case with with platforms especially if you think about it like when when the makers of the app store created the app store you know the the initial apps was like you know a beer drinking app and like a bunch of random apps like that did they know that you know Uber was going to come out of that Door Dash was going to come out of that Tik Tok was going to come out of that probably not

[译文] [Greg]: 是的，我认为平台总是这样的，特别是如果你回想一下，当 App Store 的制造者创建 App Store 时，最初的 App 就像是一个喝啤酒的 App 以及一堆像那样的随机 App。他们知道 Uber 会从中诞生吗？DoorDash 会从中诞生吗？TikTok 会从中诞生吗？可能不知道。

[原文] [Greg]: so I think that what's really cool about the phase that we are in right now with Claude Code and also Claude Co-work is we're all figuring it out at the same time and none of us including the creator have all the answers,

[译文] [Greg]: 所以我认为我们现在处于 Claude Code 和 Claude Co-work 的这个阶段非常酷的一点是，我们都在同时探索它，我们中没有人（包括创造者）拥有所有答案。

[原文] [Greg]: but I agree with you like what's it's it's a good time to be sharing some you know sharing what's working not working and you know if you're open to it let's let's screen share and get our hands dirty

[译文] [Greg]: 但我同意你的看法，这是一个分享的好时机，分享什么有效、什么无效。如果你愿意的话，让我们进行屏幕共享，亲自动手试一试（get our hands dirty）。