Ilya Sutskever 離開 OpenAI 後首次深度專訪：人類學得比 AI 快，是因為我們有更好的演算法

章节 1：缓慢起飞的科幻现实与抽象的经济影响

📝 本节摘要：

本节讨论了当前 AI 发展的奇特状态：尽管技术进步如同科幻小说成真，但这种“缓慢起飞（slow takeoff）”让一切感觉异常普通。Ilya 和 Dwarkesh 探讨了尽管新闻中充斥着巨额投资公告，但普通人尚未在日常生活中感受到实质性的变化，这种影响目前仍停留在抽象层面。

[原文] [Dwarkesh]: you know what's crazy that all of this is real yeah meaning what don't you think so meaning what like all this AI stuff and all this area yeah that it's happen like isn't it straight out of science fiction yeah

[译文] [Dwarkesh]: 你知道什么很疯狂吗？这一切都是真实的。是啊，这意味着什么？你不这么认为吗？意味着像所有这些 AI 的东西以及这整个领域，是啊，它正在发生，这难道不是直接出自科幻小说吗？是啊。

[原文] [Dwarkesh]: another thing that's crazy is like how normal the slow takeoff feels the idea that we'd be investing 1% of GDP in AI like I feel like it would have felt like a bigger deal you know where right now it just feels like we get used to things pretty fast turns out

[译文] [Dwarkesh]: 另一件疯狂的事情是，这种“缓慢起飞（slow takeoff）”感觉是多么正常。我们将 GDP 的 1% 投资于 AI 这种想法，我觉得这本该感觉像是一件更重大的事，你知道吗？而现在感觉只是——事实证明我们适应事物的速度相当快。

[原文] [Ilya]: Yeah but also it's kind of like it's abstract like what does it mean what it means that you see it in the news that such and such company announced such and such dollar amount right that's that's all you see right it's not really felt in any other way so far yeah

[译文] [Ilya]: 是的，但也因为它有点抽象。比如这意味什么？这意味着你在新闻里看到某某公司宣布了某某金额的投资，对吧？这就是你看到的全部，对吧？目前在任何其他方面并没有真正感受到它。是啊。

[原文] [Dwarkesh]: should we actually begin here i think this is an interesting discussion sure i think your point about well from the average person's point of view nothing is that different will continue being true even into the singularity no I don't think so okay interesting so

[译文] [Dwarkesh]: 我们要不就从这里开始？我觉得这是一个有趣的讨论。当然。我认为你的观点是，从普通人的角度来看，没什么太大的不同。这种情况甚至会一直持续到奇点（Singularity）吗？不，我不这么认为。好的，有趣，那么……